Jan Cox Talk 1357

Why Do Mythical Heroes Never Return From Their Quest?

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11/04/1994
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Summary

#1357 – 11/04:
Notes by TK

The only true history is genetic history. Written history is mythical. Mythical heroes are on an adventure NOT for reunion with the godhead, but for separation from same; i.e., he succeeds but never returns to tell the story (i.e., has no comment). When a man can separate from his old thinking, why would he ever return?

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A boy approached his father:
“I have heard it said that a hero is one who has
Given over his life to something larger than was his life (I?)”, and the elder replied:
“The hero is one who has given over his life to making his life larger than it was,”

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To himself, one man held this notion:
“I consider any day wasted in which I did not have some idea of such
A nature that should the ordinary know of it, and understand it as I do, their very consciousness would be shook and constructively altered.”

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The human mind and appearing productive on the job
If you keep enough of “Just stuff” on your desk
You can always seem busy just suifflin’ it all around.

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While all of the other children picked up many toys,
Played with them for a moment, then discarded them for new ones, one kid sat holding just one,
And one of his companions finally warned:
“If you don’t stop that
You could grow up to be a mystic or somethin’.”

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Quite common among the simple
Is their taking of death to be an allegory for their lives —
They in fact interpret, (mistakenly so),
Many of the mystical signposts left by “Those-who-knew” to support this.
Thus, for the potentially more-complex,
Do the messages commonly taken from myths and allegories themselves have to be re-mythified, allergized, and then interpreted anew.

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The general history of man appears to be two histories: one, a history of his deeds,
The other, of his ideas.
A true warrior in personally re-living this course, must partake of both, as though they were one.

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The geography of allegory:
One man lived in Madrid, but his mind lived in Barcelona–
So he moved to Barcelona —
But it didn’t do any good —
His mind still stayed somewhere else,

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A guy said to a man he thought might be a mystic:
“You know,
It almost seems to me that if
All non-survival aspects of man’s life are more-or-less, ‘bullshit’, then any attempted transcendence thereof would be even more so (!?!)” and the man replied: “Could be.”

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Amongst one warrior band was an idea that said to them in private: “Without respect, there is no quiet,
and without quiet, no heroic deed.

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The allegory of geography:
One man lived in Spain, but his mind lived in Barcelona,
And a student objected: “But Barcelona is in Spain!?!”
Ah!, but so too is a man’s mind in him — and a lot of good it does!

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When a striking opportunity to be critical presented itself to one man, he declined,

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Linear sequence, re-examined
The beginning of Copernicus’ theory was a knackwurst) the beginning of pigs is roots,
The beginning of roots, rain,
And rain is caused, (now in part) by Copernicus’ theory.

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All of man’s many myths regarding him having somehow offended the gods, and being driven from an erstwhile paradise into a land of discontent,
reflect his common feeling that “This world is not my home!” Do note that only his mind so says.

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The legend of the knight &. His herd:
All of one man’s horses ran away from him — except one — the one he always thought about.

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The shame of warriors
That they can be felled by the same kind of bullets that kill everyone else.

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One guy,
(who some thought played “Strangely”, as a kid),
Grew into a man who was curious only about things that were of benefit to him.
The nosey people’s society objects to such as this
On the basis that it constructively discounts exactly one half of human history.

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One chap looked at what normally occupies the mind of man & mused: “We are all either simpler than we think,
Or else astoundingly easy to distract and entertain.”
…And on his back, someone later pined a sign that said: “So what else is new!?”

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In non-physical terms: it’s hard to recognize a hero until he’s dead.

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Thought:
There is thought, and there is argumentative thought, ordinary thought is argumentative.

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Thought one guy: “It’s bad enough to dream without dreaming about yourself!”

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Within himself,
One man could find two histories, reports & explanations of man —
One of them was mythical & allegorical,  the other, a waste of time.

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Thought one guy: “It’s bad enough havin’  dreams without ’em including you!”

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One thing that all of the wad have in common is that they talk to themselves

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The human mind and residential kemptness:
By the time you move into the house it’s already untidy.
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The matter of “Independence” et-visited:
There is no such thing as an, “independent creature”–
Closest you’d come around here’d be
In the general area of “Thought”, (perhaps).
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One who should know,
Once put it like this:
“It is not so much a matter of ‘freedom’ as it is, ‘release’ -release from such meaningless ideas.”

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A true warrior doesn’t talk to the dead.
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A true warrior doesn’t talk to the dead , unless by his own purposeful choosing.
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Three levels op one set of comparative definitions
The world: a car–             the mind: a dog chasing it.
(2nd level):
The thoughts the world stirs up: a car–   the mind: a dog chasing them.
(3nd level):
Thoughts:  a car — the mind: the dog.
The end.

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After considerable reading and reflection on the matter of: heroes, and the “Heroic death”, a boy went to ask his father: “Is it possible to die-the-heroic death when the
Cause for which you died was folly?”,
And the old man told him to close the door,

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“How be it?” thought a wounded warrior, “That a hero could be foolish & stupid!?”

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Teflon is what a real thinker uses on the “Emotional registry” of his mind.

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Okay: Teflon is what a real thinker would use on the “Mental registry” of his emotions.

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One man told his personal mystic:
“For my birthday, I’ll tell you what you cum lo for me: don’t act friendly. I know that as long as I like ‘this’ — you’ll like me,
And that’s quite sufficient.”
..And he closed the door as he came & went.

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When it comes to the matter of transcendency
The simple always think of it in physical terms,
While the knowledgeable do so in the context of consciousness.

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The useful weight on a-true warrior:_
There are no heroes once your hero’s dead.
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…And,
In the ashes of an ancient warrior’s campfire was the coded message: “Don’t be sad over that which makes you cry.–
Yet, speak to those here.”