Jan Cox Talk 0639

All Talk in the City Is Combative


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#639 ** Apr 25, 1990 ** – 1:05
Notes by TK

Kyroot to :08.. Talk in the City is for the purpose of: establishing truth; correcting errors; converting the foolish; overwhelming the weak and the unsuitable. All talk in the City is combative; combative with other talk; a competition of ideas. Real Revolutionist talk—New Intelligence Processing–would not be combative or competitive with other ideas. It is not about “coping”, but gives the subtle suggestion that you don’t have to “cope”.

A Real Revolutionist Rule: your physical presence is not specifically demanded in any circumstances of unavoidable conflict, drama, “scenarios”, dances. A real myth is not tied to whether it is ‘true’ or not. Real Revolutionist info, if it existed as such, would be like such a myth; it puts a “twist “on existing info but is not in competition with it.

The desire to pass along, to retell gossip and jokes and other info is almost impossible to resist; these urges are due to words being alive in their own right. Cf. Life’s FS/first story, that it is the “gossipy” personality that conveys such info. Connection to the power of words requiring an audience, not merely a speaker. Words are not vitally alive without an audience. In the equation of speaker (performer) plus audience, a third element is not to be entered: the words themselves as living entities. Consider the old saying: those who talk most have the least to say. Although given real credence in the City, there is absolutely no explanation for it. That words are alive is a real explanation: words have a life of their own and they will out. They are equal partners in the speaker/hearer duo.


…and Kyroot said: . V41 411140011″
A certain ruler called to him his molecules, I mean, his people, and said to them,
them, “No longer will I grant clemency, nor will I issue pardons, henceforth it will be thusly:
People, you must spare yourselves!”
…(a disturbed little fellow in the rear of the crowd muttered, “Sire, we are not amused.”)

…and Kyroot said:
A man with no vested interests is a man with no interests.

…and Kyroot said:
Under institutional conditions in ordinary, secondary affairs:
When you talk about
What you know about,
And you don’t know
What you’re talking about…It’s O.K.

…and Kyroot said:
Don’t forget – “The Conversation.”

…and Kyroot said:
One day, around two-fifteen in the afternoon, while they were standing
out by a stream just spittin and standin, the ole man looked off into the distance
(which wasn’t that hard to do as close as they were to it already) and said to
his younger companion, “It’s good to know that, ‘All things are possible,’ and even better yet ‘that some things are more possible than others…’ like for instance, if your name is Pee Wee Pigsbreath, you don’t hardly have to worry at all about being chosen for king.”
…(They stood, and spit a while longer.)

…and Kyroot said:
A strong man makes a particular, funny kind of noise when he falls apart.

…and Kyroot said:
As many intellectual fields have been scourged by cabbage as by mis-information.

…and Kyroot said:
Along his verbal way the speaker mentioned, “It would be my opinion that a Real Revolutionist would not discuss his plans.” And in the crowd he addressed, a kid tugged on his ole man’s sleeve and asked, “Pa Pa, would that be because a Revolutionist has no plans, or no discuss?”

…and Kyroot said:
A guy who’d been hanging around a certain Revolutionist for a while, listening to his talk, considering his analysis, and attempting to actively pursue some of his maps, one day, apparently contemplating a move, asked the Rebel, “Could I
continue this work without you?” and the response said, “Better yet, look at it this way– can you do it even WITH me?”

…and Kyroot said:
This one chap over in the Vector Sector, who I had not seen in quite a while (at least by Vector reckoning), after warm salutations and the expected asking-about-the-health-of-my-planets, told me that even though he was moralistically and economically opposed to them, that if he ever did adopt a personal motto it will be, “Nothing is lacking til said tis lacking.”

…and Kyroot said:
This one sweet little child, (he wasn’t actually, but his mother bribed
me to throw that in), asked, “Is the Revolution a Primary, or Secondary activity?” and his mother replied, “Guess that all depends on whether you’re asking from a local, or universal view.”… later the lad asks, “Does even that matter much?”
“No kid, not much.”

…and Kyroot said:
The youngest son seemed unable to go even a few hours without becoming entangled in heated arguments with his elder siblings, so one morning the father took the lad out behind the croquet course and delivered the following words, “My boy, the tensions apparently inherent in many human relationships are not necessarily improved by statements of your conflicting position; let me give you an example.”

…and Kyroot said:
Often, when recalling his former self, this one person would softly
murmur, “Your absence means more to me than I can say.”

…and Kyroot said:
I heard another father tell his “younger companion” (his heir,
I presumed), “Kid, a father that wouldn’t give his son useless advice is no father of mine.”

…and Kyroot said:
Over in the thorny bushes in the park, a chap was stamping about, waving
his arms, and muttering, “Compromise, compromise, gads! How I hate that word – zounds! You despicable concept!”
And a wienie vendor passing by thought, “Wow, he’s gonna just love death.”

…and Kyroot said:
When fording the boundaries of prejudice be sure and roll your knickers up.

…and Kyroot said:
Though it is not taught at this level, there is an area of learning best called, “The Mathematics Of History” which could be useful for a keen, neat and subversive student-of-the strident. For a ‘for instance’ apply your little brain maggots to this: Your founding fathers did not
found anything, but were themselves found thereby.

…and Kyroot said:
After reading, or hearing again the line, “Life is as tedious as a twice told tale,” this one out of towner thought, “Is it just me? or has anyone ever considered that even a ‘twice told tale’ wouldn’t be tedious if they didn’t tell it for a second time?”
…(shortly thereafter he figured it was time to go back home.)

…and Kyroot said:
How can things “make sense”, and then, “not make sense”?…or how can they almost make sense, and then suddenly not do so in some way you can’t quite grasp?… …ah, forget it, let’s go on to something else:
On this one world the hot new dance going all around is the “Edna,” although the chap who invented it tells me that he’s received so much flack about the name that he hasn’t had time to actually develop the dance.

…and Kyroot said:
As quickly as possible, find out if you can get your opponent to whine.

11/24/89- (20)
…and Kyroot said:
Remember how they hated you in Pittsburg.