Jan Cox Talk 0595

A Dream of Paradise Lost Is a Dream of What Hasn’t Happened Yet


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#595 Jan 12, 1990 – 1:04 
Notes by TK

Kyroot to :07. All questions of whether there is progress or not, are “unthinkably irrelevant” in face of the concept that movement, per se, is the vital sign of creation. What if “Tertium Quid” (E force) is just for the purpose of preempting a choice of or for C or D force? What if it were necessary misdirection for purposes of movement? It is more profitable for a Real Revolutionist and Life to live in an area of conflict rather than stagnation.

The human intellect cannot determine/define which actions are life supporting and which are not. This is the source of the everyday frustrations man has in arriving at a consensus. Lack of consensus itself is not the source of man’s frustration, it is his incomplete perception that is the source. The frustration is in not having a choice, vs, making ‘wrong’ selections. Humanity is driven to account for the potential worth of anything, as long as it is moving. Only the dead are not eligible for rehabilitation by the living. No one can absolutely judge that anything moving is beyond redemption. 

The reversibility of energy flow thru the “mentis lens”-man; movement is the singular vital sign of creation/evolution; and history. What if history is no less than the ‘gods’ (man’s more simplistic ancestors) attempting to reclaim diminished power, the verbal reinforcing of former glory? Connection to individuals talking about themselves, their past. The past is always more simplistic; humans have not descended from gods, they have ascended.

Thus there is no such thing as a living, potent, cogent, religious past, although this completely defies the beliefs of the ordinary intellect. The dreams of paradise lost is really a dream of what hasn’t happened yet. If it happens, it will happen in humans now or in future. The actual past is primitive and limited.


…and Kyroot said:
Things not necessary may be LESS than necessary.
…and Kyroot said:
One voice said, “When every day is a holiday all men will have their own party hat,” and a semi-parallel voice counterpointed, “If every man had his own personalized party hat there’d be no
for holidays.”
…and Kyroot said:
At the ceremony, upon receiving his award the man stated, “I’d like to
thank everyone who made this
possible.”, and then added,
“My brother would also like
to thank the same every ones
who made this inevitable.”
…and Kyroot said:
No matter their intentions, whatever a man may do will be harmful to someone else; only the myths can survive without
causing injury,
(and of course
they cannot, as soon as men believe
in them.
…and Kyroot said:
A member of a private security force told me quite publicly, “Hey,
they pay me to guard
stuff, not take care
of it.”
…and Kyroot said:
You can’t “agree” to be ordinary…
(of course, you don’t have to.)
…and Kyroot said:
While sitting in that oblique park near the orange-zone connector,
a chap talking to the pigeons
turned his tongue to me for
a moment, and confessed, “After more than a few decades of life on this planet, I finally seem to have developed a precise, delicate balance that is just right for me…
…and what’s even more
bouncy is that I have no
idea what it is.”
…and Kyroot said;
A man with a gift generally assures others that his talent is no “mere gift.”
…and Kyroot said:
Over on this pretty speedy, young planet, they have a tale exemplary
of how varying, partial impressions will produce diverse, incomplete conceptions of the same thing; it is in the telling of the story of “The Five Blind Men
And The Computer.”
…and Kyroot said:
One more of those trans-mortal creatures slipped me his Olympian sentiments on the matter
by saying that what he liked best about “being a divinity”
was that some of his grandchildren still mistook him for candy.
…and Kyroot said:
A wooly-seeming tailor I stood next to in a breakfast queue just around the corner, told me that about the only way he could get a straight answer from himself was to ask a crooked question.
…and Kyroot said:
Another out-of-town divinity sent me a card and said he’d heard of my recent collection of
his peers’ sentiments, and
in the same regard, he wanted to state that what he liked best about being a god is that you can whine and no one ever notices what you’re
actually doing.
…and Kyroot said:
The first voice said, “There’s only one thing I am justified to hate -dumbness,” and his friend’s voice, in a captious mood replied, “O.k., but who’s to decide what IS dumbness?”, and number one voice declared, “Why me, of course, I’m certainly qualified to do that, or I wouldn’t be smart enough to spot all the dumbness in the first place – Humph:”
and the other voice said,
“Rats – foiled again.”
…and Kyroot said:
Over in the deep end of the pool, a lurking liquor salesman said to me,
“I have but one fear in life,
and that is of being
misunderstood,” and one of
his parallel voices said,
“Jeeze – talk about
half a problem.”
…and Kyroot said:
In one yet flashing galaxy there is a rather hard-nosed description
of what many creatures consider
metaphysical insight, and it
says, “Each individual is a unique axis in their own unique wheel of
no personal consequence.”
…and Kyroot said:
All of existence is a manifestation of economics, and man has been driven to make the secondary level of discussing prices, profits & losses , in part, a replacement for the mere living of same.
…and Kyroot said:
Even though he was not quite religiously inclined, the old guy’s wife insisted that he should furnish their son with some sort of spiritual guidance, so one morning he pulls his pants up high, fills his pockets full of ballast, takes the lad to the edge of the east pasture and tells him,
“Kid, any god that existed
before you did didn’t
…and Kyroot said:
One guy, with a loud voice, and equally noisy opinion of himself, reached up high, and declared, “Geography has shaped what we are socially and culturally,” and his second soprano voice asked, “Do you mean, Geography the academic discipline, or the actual lay of the land?” and “Mr. Boisterous” exclaimed,
“O-mein-Gott, you mean
there’s a difference?”
…and Kyroot said:
Since everything one normally does socially is either a ritualization of,
or substitute for something
else, even the most well
behaved still don’t know
what they’re doing.
…and Kyroot said:
Although the first version is always the best, it is the second son who is favored.
…(Hey, come on – I never
told you that Life
grows in ways
mysterious, just