Jan Cox Talk 0592

What Has to Be Explained Will Never Be Understood

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Summary

#592 Jan 5, 1990 – 1:06 
Notes by TK

Kyroot to :06. What has to be explained will never be understood, at least not in the way it is explained. Explanation is for the purpose of First Story; it automatically terminates/denies understanding.. The ideal explanation is one that explains nothing—connection to the ideal condition of anything is what, it is not. 

Is “free choice” the same thing as “free will”? What freedom of choice is there when only one choice is given by Life? In this way Life arranges its receptors (humans) so as to receive energy that they are not really equipped to process. Why would Life so arrange things? It is seemingly crazy. senseless. But recollect that the ideal state of a thing is what it cannot be. A Real Revolutionist has got to provide his own “free choices”. 

A law of physics: complexity is a kind of buffer. Complex intelligence is an inbred evolutionary protection against primitive fears and threatening ideas (opinions), which can then be dispensed with. Connection to advanced forms of life replacing a multitude of more primitive ones. The Real Revolutionist has got to be more complex than necessary.

The idea that those who “know too much” are thus saddened by it, is bogus. Such people do not know too much or they would know better than that, that they are not subject to unhappiness.

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8/4/89-(1)
…and Kyroot said:
At a philosopher’s convention over on that humid planet, one of the featured speakers had the following to present: He
said that after a full life time of thought, study, research and discussion, he was now “all but certain” about one single thing…he
did add that the only
problem was that he
wasn’t sure what it was.
8/4/89-(2)
…and Kyroot said:
This one file clerk who had long been seated at the bar, drinkin’
and thinkin’, then doing it some more, finally delivered his ‘magnum opus’ by announcing, “The nature of civilization is in a collection of diverse entities banding together in such a way as any aggression remaining is directed outward,” and another mind, a few seats down mused,
“Is that not also true
for the individual?”
814/8943)
…and Kyroot said:
There is fame-worth-having, and fame not-worth-having, and
they’re
both
the
same.
8/4/8944)
…and Kyroot said:
While considering some of the less than kind things said about him,
one god said, “Well sure, I may be a myth, but
myths have
feelings too.”
8/4/89-(5)
…and Kyroot said:
The first guy, yeah, that one right over there, well, he ups and sez, “The history of civilization is no more than the ever increasing inclination of man to come indoors,” and that other fellow, just over there next to him counterpointed, “Hey, that’s
also the
history
of
mans’ gods.”
8/4/8946)
…and Kyroot said:
Everything has a memory.
…and Kyroot added:
More specifically and expansive:
All things retain a memory
of more complex dimensions
from whence they were deduced.
8/4/89-(7)
…and Kyroot said:
Some things, if not properly attended, when they die are damn near dead forever.
8/4/89-( 8)
…and Kyroot said:
All ordinary stuff runs its course…
(that’s one way you can tell
it’s ordinary).
8/4/89-(9)
…and Kyroot said:
Every day, for many years, this one father would shout to his son,
“Don’t you fall from that
ladder,” and this was
long before the
boy had ever
even seen a ladder.
8/4/89-(10)
…and Kyroot said:
Inscribed on the wall of a certain 3-D way station, ‘God’ is what the
intellect
calls
tomorrow.”
8/11/89-(11)
…and Kyroot said:
The intellect has to do with the pleasures of measure and meaning, the excitement of change, while the rest of man’s system is about the direct, primary
joy of simply being alive.
…and Kyroot said:
There is a cold mythology that is beyond all fiction.
8/4/89-(13)
…and Kyroot said:
Do not put an illiterate relative in charge of picking up the mail.
8/4/89 (14)
…and Kyroot said:
I continue to be contacted regarding the little survey I started, and just yesterday yet another
deity let me know that he wanted to be recorded by saying that what he liked best about being a god is that even when you’re wrong they think you’re right.
8/4/89-(15)
…and Kyroot said:
On the leeward side of death, the cause of all pain is dual.
and Kyroot added:
For those of more precise notebooks
I could trans-diagnose and say: Dual causes
are the cause
of all pain.
8/4/89-(16)
…and Kyroot said:
The more complex messages, and fitful codes from the future are not necessarily dependent on anything that’s happened.
…(Thus, in part, the itchy limits of simplistic data.)
8/4/89-(17)
…and Kyroot said:
On a time not too near where we now stand, a father said to his son, “Son,”, and the lad interrupted him by saying, “I wish you wouldn’t call me that.”, and the father asked, “Why?” and the boy said, “You know why,” and his elder responded, “Yes, but unless I pretend I don’t I will no longer BE your
father.”
814/89418)
…and Kyroot said:
A timekeeper I spoke with at another one of those pandemic philosophers’
conventions told me that he was “sick and bloody tired” of hearing
and reading about how all of the “best things cannot be spoken of because they transcend mere words.”
He says that his latest thinking
on the matter is that “the best
things can’t be talked about
simply because people don’t
wanna talk about ’em.”
8/4/89419)
…and Kyroot said:
A clipped, but cogent wrap-up of 3-D myths, religions, and psychology
could be thusly – As soon
as you
say,
“I am,”
you’re not.
…(No need to thank me now, just send cash later.)
8/4/89-(20)
…and Kyroot said:
The son of a certain neurally based, cosmic Revolutionist one day
sat down next to his father,
and confided, quite forcefully,
the following, “After years of pondering your wonderous words, and studying those oral, and recorded materials apparently related thereto, I sometimes truly feel that all of these ideas of a new knowledge, and of transcendental experiences are simply ‘tales’ that such men as you weave for the mere pleasure of it.”, and the old
man replied, “So?”