Jan Cox Talk 0254

Given Enough Time Everything Becomes its own Opposite


The video does not include the 42 minutes of reading the AKS ( and Kyroot Said…)( the audio does)

Audio= 42 minutes of various members of a group reading the AKS ( and Kyroot said…),  If you start the audio and then open the AKS/News Gallery in a new window in your browser – you can follow along as they read. The LOVE paper begins at 41:26. Jan begins at 1:02:27

AKS/News Item Gallery = jcap 1984-02-16 (0254)
Condensed AKS/News Items =  See below summary
Summary= See Below
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Transcript=See Below


#254 * Apr 2, 1987 *  –  2:00
Notes by TK

[Reading of Kyroot to 0:42. ]
[Reading of Kyroot paper on Love to 1:02.]

Re: “Extraordinary Sight” (ES)–specifically in arena of controversy of environment vs.heredity. ES would be to see environment as the internal workings of Life’s own genetics; Life’s genetic makeup IS the environment. The example of the argument of a songbird being removed from a critical phase of its growth, never fully developing its proper song, proving the reality of ‘environmental influence’ over hereditary provides the opportunity for ES in The Few.

ES reveals that there is no space, no emptiness within which to place environmental influences. In the equation of I + Not-I = Everything, the (+) must represent space, at least tacitly, where two elements can be joined together. Relation to that great ‘dirty question’ of Life’s re: art–“but what does it mean?” coupled to the drive, the immediate activation to attempt an explanation– but now applied closer to home, is that ‘great tacit question’ constantly surfacing: “what does it (your life) mean?” and generating overriding pressure to offer explanation; to explain yourself. None are exempt from this pressure in life.

“Binary-spin” = energy tendency to depart the present state for a conclusion. Example of the water cycle from stream to ocean as seen from the stream point of view, and arriving at a satisfactory conclusion without seeing the third part of the cycle: evaporation/cloud formation and condensation into rain feeding the stream. 3-D consciousness vs. 4-D consciousness  = continuing awareness of a time continuum. 4-D consciousness would be cognizant of time-flow as binocular vision is aware of an extra dimension of depth over monocular vision. Internal application: where only 2 “I-s” operate in the binary psyche, the addition of a third I makes 4-D consciousness possible.

Questions from out-of-town re: ‘fuck health’ dictum; belief/non-belief in same is irrelevant–you’ve either got to buy it all or stop shopping. Health is a routine hobby–rampant in the binary world–not to be indulged in by The Few.

“If secret thoughts were known–all men would be hung”–This cannot be true about The Few. When The Few can realize that radio station WDNA is not who they are, they must become responsible for their thinking; not join with it.

And Kyroot Said

…and Kyroot said:
That which does not advance, recedes.
And the proclaimed innovators of yesterday become the repetitive old fools of
…and Kyroot said:
Anything you can explain to your own satisfaction, you don’t understand.
…and Kyroot said
look again.
…and Kyroot said:
Human emotions can be seen as a ditch between the Red and Yellow circuits; Some yellow-centered types appear to have almost, somehow “leapt” over this captive gully, but the Few should not-to-worry, for they must all trudge through this trench on their own, and thus they will remember Man’s evolution from deep, red dangerous devils, to more controllable blue outrages.
…and Kyroot said:
Even after all of the wonderous advances in science and technology, crooked sticks still cast
crooked shadows.
Couldn’t you just spit.
…and Kyroot said:
No form of criticism will ever lead to understanding.
Couldn’t we all just spit.
…and Kyroot said:
…and Kyroot said:
It is for the ordinary to react to that which is new in a negative manner.
It is an aspect of the D-Force moving through Man to restate the status quo, and reaffirm its repressive position.
(Need I add, that this whole thing should be avoided like a herd of insurance salesmen
…and Kyroot said:
An isolated “I” is a form of one-syllable suicide.
…and Kyroot said:
Those who are want to say, “Ah, but one of these days”, actually mean, “Well, none of these days.”
…and Kyroot said:
You must each grow-up to an ordinary level, equal to Life’s present
maturity as reflected in its latest generation.
Instead of speaking for D-Force through automatic resistance to the following generation’s changes in attitudes, standards and behavior, you must See that Life has its own continuing higher morality that is:
Growth is good,
stagnation bad.
…and Kyroot said:
Ordinary criticism of life is like examining one piece of a jig-saw puzzle, and deciding it to be without beauty, form, or function. Its form
may appear asymmetrical and ungainly, and its colors may seem unsatisfying, even in conflict with themselves.
But once the
piece is properly positioned and is seen in the total context of the completed picture, no such criticism
is valid.
…and Kyroot said:
I suspect that a fuller understanding of the relative nature of Life’s unfolding triads would rearrange one’s present notions of pride and shame.
May I offer this observation: A lion does not hunt worms.
…and Kyroot said:
There is a certain unrecognized aspect to Man’s repetitive day dreams; they either seem to concern things
that he has never done, or else involve things indeed done, but in an unsatisfactory fashion.
Now, where to start?
…and Kyroot said:
Women have been driven to ordinarily identify themselves primarily through men’s reaction to them. Such a conception of one’s self by an externally forced outline should be abandoned like last year’s fashion.
(Men have a similar problem, but it’s so intertwined with all their other ills that I just don’t feel like getting into it right now.)
…and Kyroot said:
I trust you can all bear this by now, so I will go ahead and tell you:
that it is the “bad” knowledge that cannot be altered.
(Although fools can prove this, only the Few understand
…and Kyroot said:
It has been said that it is not good for a Man to have everything He wants,
but how about the reverse?
…and Kyroot said:
Ordinary consciousness has an observable, automatic suppressor which keeps certain information from staying on the screen with sufficient intensity to become part of clear memory.
must construct your
own willful suppressor
to facilitate the same
results under your own
…and Kyroot said:
Only the true defenders of Life shall live and endure.
…and Kyroot said:
If it is true what they say, that a Man’s “natural manner best
suits Him,”
then why does everyone
seem so ill clothed?
2/16/84- (21)
…and Kyroot said:
I hate to admit it, but it is true:
Those who never run, never trip.
2/16/84- (22
…and Kyroot said:
You must not allow vacuums to exist in your personal triads, for Life will mechanically fill them. You must leap in yourself and do so, by any word, or deed necessary. In this circumstances, nothing could be more dangerous than your own inaction.
…and Kyroot said:
Politeness must surely be a sign of something, or other…
…and Kyroot said:
Only the dead are never wrong.
(And who would’ve ever expected a voice from a future grave.)
…and Kyroot said:
A committee of twelve may uncover some “great truth”
(if eleven of them
are out of town.)
…and Kyroot said:
Nothing is true from every point of view, but then again,
from some point
of view everything
is true.
…and Kyroot said:
That which is beyond repair must be beyond recall.
…and Kyroot said:
Speech may be the gift of all Men, but few ever get past the wrapping.
…and Kyroot said:
You must establish your own present overriding standard of morality. You must superimpose it on the inner voices of ordinary guilt and suffering. You cannot accept the voices who cry, “Oh, I’m aware of my follies, and I am working toward a solution.”
You must
abandon this, and decide beforehand that certain thoughts, words, feelings, and deeds are no longer acceptable to your higher screen of consciousness regardless of conditions, or internal
…and Kyroot said:
Anger towards a lie becomes its proof.
(May I assume that some of you understand that the reality of this does not necessarily require the presence of two
…and Kyroot said:
If the contemporary idea is correct that everything seems to flow from
a state of order to a state of chaos,
why is it not suspected that “chaos”
might be the natural order of things?
…and Kyroot said:
It is often hard to find beauty unless you bring some with you.
2/16/84- (33)
…and Kyroot said:
It is often difficult to find fun unless you bring some with you.
…and Kyroot said:
It is often hard to find advice, unless you’re lucky.
…and Kyroot said:
No matter how carefully anger is aimed toward another, the result is always a bullet-to-the-foot.
…and Kyroot said:
What does ordinary consciousness more firmly embrace but that which it understands the least.
…and Kyroot said:
Only those words and deeds that are necessary are just, (not to mention, satisfying.)
…and Kyroot said:
If it be true that, a great orator is one who can convince himself,
then what praises are due “the voices”?
…and Kyroot said:
Justifying an act is compounding a felony:
excusing a word is a poison twice swallowed.
…and Kyroot said:
Living on the advice of other fools is one way to pay double for everything.
…and Kyroot said:
Life’s movements and Man’s speech always say the same thing,
(but only a Few can make the correct translation.)
…and Kyroot said:
Every conscious act makes room for itself.
(Believe me, there are
enough vacuums to go around for everybody.)
2/16/84- (43)
…and Kyroot said:
Where knowledge is needed, force is of little value.
But when force is required, don’t
try and chop wood with a philosopher’s teeth.
…and Kyroot said:
In most instances, the best prayer is willful silence.
The key word, of course, being, “willful.”
(And one more thing: the word “silence” refers to the inner
kind as well.
…and Kyroot said:
Have you noticed how the forbidden seems to have an erotic language all its own?
Then what tongue do you find foreign?
…and Kyroot said:
That which begins in anger will never finish in Tahiti.
…and Kyroot said:
What might life be if there were no such word as “but”?*
*and “although”.
…and Kyroot said:
Time may indeed, cure all ills, but my god, how long do you want to live.
…and Kyroot said:
A whole lot of littles can make a lot,
but a whole lot of nothings,



Document:  254,  April 2, 1987
Copyright (c) Jan M. Cox, 1987

I want to see if we can have a small conversation about extraordinary sight.  There is a story about a certain songbird with which scientists have experimented.  It’s another one of these examples of people trying to play around with the question of “heredity versus environment.”  They found that with this particular songbird, if the chick is taken away from adult birds, it never develops its full song.  That is, apparently without any doubt what I have told you is wrong and there is such a thing as environment after all.  With this bird, unless it was in its natural environment to hear adult birds sing, it could not even later learn its full song.  And of course scientists and psychologists have applied this to the study of human childhood development.

I bring this up to show you what apparently is an obvious example demonstrating that there is, indeed, an environment.  But I have said, given the two choices of heredity versus environment, there is no environment.  Here is where extraordinary sight comes in:  what would seem to be the environment is actually the internal workings of Life’s own genetics.  Ordinary three-dimensional sight cannot see that. What seems to be the environment to 3-D consciousness is in truth the living reality of all of Life’s body.  In my great equation “I + Not-I = Everything,” it would be the “plus.”  And the “plus,” to ordinary consciousness, seems to be empty.

Before quantum mechanics, the “plus” was the ether.  Now it’s just empty.  It’s nonexistent.  But I am here to tell you that if you could see four-dimensionally, you would see that Life’s body is alive everywhere. Aside from the songbird example, I could have used the kinds of things which common sense and psychology nowadays take to be the obvious influences of one’s environment.  That is, the actions of other people.  If you could see in one more dimension, you would see that the apparent mortal environment is simply the internal workings of Life’s own body.  There is no emptiness.  There’s no room for something to move from one person to another.

Belief in empty space is the basis of the illusion of environment.  But you are not seeing people floating around in some isolated, open-ended system.  You are seeing the workings of a greater system, and in the greater system everything is alive.  And although ordinary consciousness would not speak of such things as emptiness, that is what people are saying.  There apparently has to be time and space between you and your mother for her to have said “you ugly little thing” or “no, I didn’t get you anything for your birthday and shut up.”  Think of your own example — whatever seems to be your particular trauma. Apparently another person can send a message through the empty space between you and them, and the deed is done.  You have been environmentally impacted.  But if you could see in another dimension, it is not a matter of isolated energy, emotion, or thought travelling from one person to another.  We are simply in the middle of a living system.  It’s all alive.  It is all active with energy and information, even the apparent emptiness.

Once you see all this, you can also see how ordinary consciousness believes — quite properly, at that level — that there is an environment, that people do individually affect each other.  And you’d also understand why consciousness cannot go back any further than the Old Testament dictum that “the sins of the fathers become the sins of the sons.”  Hey, that’s good enough.  Of course if you tried to carry it back and ask about the sins of the grandfathers and the great-grandfathers, an ordinary person would say “Well, gotta go.”  The dictum has lost its meaning; it has become too complex.

If you recall, also I have pointed out fairly recently one of Life’s dirty questions.  That is, an artiste being asked, “What does it mean?”  And then I added that a dirtier part of it, in a sense, is that the artiste is forced by Life to try and answer the question.  But now let me expand it a little more and call it GTQ: the Great Tacit Question.  You do not have to have any pretensions to being an artiste, because Life is demanding of each person continually an explanation of their art, that is, their life.  It’s looking at you and saying, “All right, but what does it mean?”  And ordinary people cannot answer this.  They do not know, and therefore they are energized to try and answer.

Here we come to the great world of conclusions — the great world of attempting to explain oneself.  Some thing, some apparent other person, is gazing upon your work of art (which is simply your existence in this case) and is always asking what it means.  And the ordinary, not knowing what it means, are driven to attempt to answer.  Why do you think people stay alive?  Why do you think that the whole world, except of course you and I, does not understand that the way out is simply suicide?  They cannot answer the question.  Of course, if they could, nobody would have any fun.  Nobody would buy underarm deodorant, and nobody would care that others didn’t buy it.  You can see this everywhere.  Apparently at times it is coming from a specific person.  At other times it is the Great Tacit Question: like a fog in your neighborhood, or an unusual high pressure system which seems to be pressing down on you.  And you are attempting to answer it.  But at the ordinary level no one knows or can explain their existence, I assure you.  The pope, presidents, priests — nobody can answer it.

Everyone at the ordinary level feels the pressure of this unspoken “something.”  People call it conscience, supernatural sensitivity, or just being alive.  Part of what some of you didn’t get when I first brought this up is that the artiste (that is, everyone) then tries to explain his art.  Those of you who don’t think there is enough humor in the world, read the interviews with artists in some of the more literary magazines.  “What does your existence mean?”  No one knows, but the pressure to answer energizes and keeps everything running.

We are still talking about sight.  3-D consciousness sees that everything which occurs has a binary spin to it.  It is a binary spin in that everything is trying to get from one position, place, condition, or state to another.  The “another” being, of course, the conclusion.

Let us imagine that rippling brooks were conscious.  They would have dreams of satisfactory conclusions.  They would dream of eventually reaching the sea, which they all do.  That would be their conclusion — the end of their binary spin.  That would be the unrecognized basis of the topographical reality of their world.  But what streams could not anticipate, with that kind of awareness, is that there is a trinary world in which they are ultimately going to be drawn up from the sea, back up into the heavens. Then to be redeposited as rain back in a what?  A stream.  But 3-D consciousness sees a great deal of emptiness between what appears to be alpha and omega.  It cannot find a way in; it cannot find a way out. And with that awareness, the conclusion for the stream would be a form of death.  But what it cannot perceive is that it will not be a conclusion, because the stream is ultimately going to be drawn into a right-angle non-expected inevitable.  And it will be blown away from where it was drawn up over another right angle, back over the land.  It will suddenly rain.  The stream will suddenly be in the midst of the rain, it will be part of the rain, and it will be back into a stream.  If you insist, we could say that it would then start all over and again dream of a satisfactory conclusion.

Now let’s really take a wild ride before I conclude.  Although this will perhaps make as much sense as is possible with words, it is not going to be as sensible as you think it might be.  First off, a person with one eye has almost no depth perception.  You can see two-dimensionally: up and down, and horizontally.  But you’ve got no depth perception.  You get two eyes, and what have you got?  Three-dimensional depth perception.  Now you do realize that everyone has two eyes.  You have two eyes and internally you have two I’s.  That is, the partnership.

Whatever I might mean by extraordinary sight would be beyond the realm of three-dimensional sight. So we would obviously be talking about four-dimensional sight at the bare minimum.  But now, sticking still to ordinary words and terminology, you all know that we are considered to be inhabitants of a four-dimensional world: “the continuum of time and space” as it is popularly expressed.

Here is how I can take the ordinary descriptions and show you what is extraordinary.  A four-dimensional consciousness would be a continual awareness of time, but not of “time and/or space.” You would have the continuing awareness of regular 3-D reality as it is, but with the simultaneous continuing awareness of time in this respect: all things, given enough time, have been their own opposites and will do so again.  All objects, predicates, nouns, verbs, and tenses are then seen as being part of a continuum in which they all, given enough time (and all it takes is your lifetime) will become their own opposites, and have been so before.  That is the difference between being a one-eyed person and then suddenly acquiring depth perception.

Everything which your consciousness has ever perceived to be proper has at one time been improper. To use my passing description and enumeration of forces, everything which once seemed to be a channel for C will become apparently a conduit for D before your life is out.  Maybe before you can blink.  But in the same way that a one-eyed person has no depth perception, a two-eyed person working on the basis of the internal partnership has no four-dimensional field of depth to see all of this.  They cannot remember that what seems to be reality out there continually changes; Man is not wired up naturally to have this continuing awareness.

With such an awareness you would not be looking upon people as being things.  You would not be making demands.  You would not have expectations of consistency.  People haven’t lied to you — times change.  What a person said at one time is now no longer valid.  You would see that things are not falling apart.  Of course you would see that things are going downhill, but the things going downhill are the things that were going uphill.  Those things falling apart are those which have already come together and blossomed.

You would also see that there is no emptiness: everything is full up.  There are understudies waiting in the wings everywhere.  All possibilities will be realized; all understudies will finally have their day on the boards.  “God’s wife” (as the joke goes) will finally get to sing.  But to see it you have to have three eyes. There’s no way out.  You have to have three internal eyes to see the depth of it.

As long as you are dealing with three-dimensional consciousness, everything gets chopped up.  You then have to stop.  You cannot deal with what seems to be physical reality and time simultaneously.  That’s the only way ordinary consciousness will work.  If it could work the way I’m talking about, people wouldn’t be people.  You couldn’t be mad at anybody.  Because everyone you’ve ever been mad at, you’ve been non-mad at.  Everything you say you disapprove of, at one time you approved of.  And vice-versa.  Of course the real kicker to all of this is that it seems to be self-directed, which psychologists say is the basis of the problem.  And if you’re going to live in a 3-D world, why not?  They’re right.  At least that view offers some hope for a conclusion.

Several people have written questions which I need to respond to.  I have summed up a certain area of concern with the phrase, “Fuck Health.”  (As you might imagine, people with only a limited exposure to This, hearing that motto for the first time, could take it to mean that I don’t believe in health.  They say, “Do you believe in health?”  Think about it.  It’s ridiculous to answer, “No, I don’t.”  But it’s also ridiculous to answer, “Yes, I believe in health.”  It’s ridiculous to answer it.)

You should first realize that “health” is one of Life’s more enduring useless hobbies.  And to do This you cannot let yourself get involved with routine hobbies.  Any talk show, morning news program, or periodical today devotes a good deal of time to the illness of the week, or the malady of the month. People listen.  It has a following.  They check their heart and their blood pressure.  They look for warning signs You’ve got to see that it is a useless hobby.  In a sense we’re all unhealthy; in a sense we’re all headed for the sea.  (We’re going to die.)  But between here and there, if you can hear me, you’ve either got to buy it all or quit shopping.

For those involved in This, health is just kind of irrelevant.  As I said, out in life it is not irrelevant, it is big biz.  It is part of the discomfort.  It is part of the pressure of “What does your life mean?”  Part of your life means “I am sick.  If I’m not sick now, I will be tomorrow.”  And of course the tacit sickness that nobody wants to talk about is…uh, eventually joining the oceans.

I don’t mean that you necessarily qualify as being a clinically diagnosed hypocontracter.  (That’s what they call hypochondriacs in certain parts of Alabama.  It’s people who build up imaginary illnesses.)  You have to see that everybody naturally has a piece of this — everybody wants to whine and complain about their health.  But it is a routine hobby, and you can’t do it.  I’m sure that some of you will find this almost as disturbing as “fuck health” — but for those who know how to do it, it is almost as good to quit thinking about quitting smoking as it is to quit.  You’d be in almost the same position.  With any hobby or habit you are trying to change, it’s the same.  You’ve got to do one or the other.  Either you stop, or you stop thinking about stopping.  It looks like a binary choice; it looks like two different things.  You apparently have to be in favor of health, or else not believe in health.  Which is it?  It’s the same thing.

You’ve got to see it and then realize what I mean by “fuck it.”  Those properly attracted to This, if you’ll notice, discover that health is just kind of a nebulous thing.  If you are hurt and there is a bone sticking out, get someone to fix it.  But do not sit around and check your blood pressure.  Do not wait for the doctor to show up on the evening news and talk about the latest breakthroughs in medicine.  You’d be better off, believe it or not, keeping up with basketball statistics.

There is a quotation, which seems to be quite ancient.  At least, I’ve been reading it all my life and that’s ancient enough.  The quotation is: “If their secret thoughts were known, all men would deserve to hang.”  And that seems true enough, does it not?  Except that it cannot any longer be true for you people. It can no longer be even an acceptably correct statement of your condition.  The noise that goes on in your own partnership is as hateful, prejudicial, jaundiced, unthinking, and uncaring as anybody’s. Including Moses and Buddha and Mohammed and Jesus.  Once you realize you are not part of the many, you understand that your secret thoughts are not your secret thoughts.  They are not yours to begin with.  Nor are they secret.  They are shared by everyone at one time or another.  You didn’t invent or acquire them. Once you realize that, only then do you become responsible: you cannot then let this tiger out of its cage. You cannot listen to and merge with radio station WDNA when some voice in you comments on a person’s race, sex, religion, or economic status.

Of course, the basis for such a quotation exists out in life.  That is, all men have cursed their neighbor, and they know it.  But ordinary people look for a conclusion.  The first conclusion is, “It ain’t my fault.  I grew up in a tightknit, bigoted community.”  Whatever the explanation is, you are looking for a conclusion. That is ordinary consciousness.  It believes a conclusion would be satisfactory.  It will even pay people to help it come to this conclusion.  They are known as priests.  They are known nowadays as psychiatrists. They are known as family.  It is part of the use of human talk — to adjust and prepare oneself for the continuing inevitability of it all.

But the few people can separate themselves from the full time radio station enough to know it is possible.  Once that happens, you become responsible.  Once you have produced almost another you inside of you, that you are responsible for.  And if you let that “you” merge with the noise, you do deserve to hang.

The noise which your own DNA makes, it makes in everyone.  I don’t care if you are Buddha’s granddaughter, genes make noise.  And if you have a Yellow Circuit, the noise has a voice.  It is what passes, in the ordinary currency, for consciousness.  Once you understand that you personally are more than that, you also understand that you and me may be the only two in the world.  (The rest of these people here — maybe.  But the only ones you are sure about is me and you.)  Then we don’t have to do all this talking and prodding.

It’s just noise.  But you’ve got to know that you don’t have to be it.  Once you know that, you can quit collecting it.  You can quit shopping.  Adios, pardners.