Jan Cox Talk 3228


Basically, Talk Is Just About Talk

The following recordings are from Jan’s final years, when his voice was diminished and he spoke in a low whisper. Some listeners may find these tapes hard to listen to, or difficult to understand. Thus, as another option, transcripts are being made and will be posted.

Otherwise, turn up the volume and enjoy! Those who carefully listened to Jan during this period consider that he spoke plainly and directly to the matter at hand, “pulling out all the stops,” as he understood that these were to be his last messages to his groups, and to posterity.

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11/24/04: There is an unnoticed, unaccounted-for segue from how you physically feel to how you emotionally feel. E.g.: sickness from bad airline meal segueing to declaration of animus for the airline, or airline industry. The impetus of the second half of the segue is thought, not physical feeling. It becomes talk about thought, not about the physical experience. Basically, talk is about talk. (44:25) #3228

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Audio of Jan Cox 24 November 2004
Copyright Jan Cox, Jan’s Legacy 2022
Notes by Cfish – March 2022
Suggested Title: Thoughts That Pass Thru Consciousness
Begin: A topic I wish to improve on is we, as conscious beings, are made up continually of what we feel and what we are thinking. And I propose our consciousness is filled with things we know that we do not know.I want to connect this together. When men speak, it’s an endless translation of what they’re feeling and what they are thinking about. And no one notices when the transition occurs. Consciousness is deviously clever. It’s only thru my supernatural powers, that I was able -I forgot what I was saying. 🙂 There were two guys at a coffee counter talking and one asks “what did you do this weekend?” And he said “my wife’s father died and we flew to Orlando for the funeral.”He continued with the story of getting sick from the airline food, how the stewardess made his blood pressure go up by saying it wasn’t the airline food, and how the airline was an asshole because the pilot had an accent.
05:00 Once the emotion starts, it’s a seamless transition to what you think. Ordinarily no distinction is made, noticed, or heard. So from being physically sick, (ex. stomach ache), emotionally sick, (ex. stewardess’s slight regard) and complaining about the airline’s pilot having a foreign accent, (ex. thinking thoughts), he is not talking about how he feels, he’s talking about the thoughts that appear in his head.
10:00 So when the story shifts from the tangible experience of the physical and emotional pain, to the thoughts that appeared in his head (ex. airline is an asshole) “what proportion of human conversation is about something real?”
15:00 Can you hear – “he’s not talking about anything real, when he is talking about things he has read and heard” and you really never know that what you read and hear is true or untrue?” (ex. NYT) So no first hand experience, it’s just things you know, that you don’t know.
20:00 He is talking strictly thoughts that pass thru his consciousness. Imagine an ordinary person talking baseball. How much of what an ordinary person knows about how the Atlanta Braves will do this season is tangible first hand experience? The topic is not serious, well, maybe a serious baseball fan but were trying to get to the bottom of consciousness – which is the bottom of everything. The folks talking baseball are being sincere, but they are stating opinions.
25:00 Being physically and emotionally sick (ex. nausea, insults etc.) is followed by thoughts in your head. (ex. memories of the nausea, insults, foreigners taking jobs) It’s a subtle shift, it’s continual and it is quite distinct and clear once you hear it.
30:00 Memories are easily manipulated. (ex. anthropology etc.) “Just talking about it” are thoughts just passing thru consciousness. Muscle memory is about the experience. (ex. burning hand on hot stove) It’s a limbic and nervous system response.
35:00 It’s difficult to see, but once you see, you’re never fooled again. You are no longer experiencing physical or emotional pain while “just talking about it” you are talking about something that happened. You are talking about thoughts you have. Thoughts are motivating you to talk about it. And the thoughts are talking about something as though its fact, but you don’t know it’s a fact. Talking memory is unreliable. I once called it the reconstruction of memory.
40:00 If you are not talking about how you are feeling at the moment – for whatever reason (ex. I don’t feel like talking, I don’t feel good etc.) anything other than an “in the moment” feeling you are not talking about anything you feel from “experience.” You are talking about a thought in your head, which may be of an experience. (What else could it be?) Thoughts and instant feelings are two different things. Instant feelings are measurable and tangible. Thoughts are intangible.Things that confused you all your life are not confusing. It’s what human speech is for the most part. Human speech is talking and thoughts. Conversing with ordinary people becomes difficult but I assume most of you have given up that shameful habit anyway. 🙂 44:26

Jan’s Daily Fresh Real News (to accompany this talk)

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The Would-Be Escapees’ Forbidden Joke Book
NOVEMBER 24, 2004 © 2004: JAN COX

How Mind Works.
One man named his dog Scooter, his motor bike Fido,
and his left kidney Grover Cleveland (after a little known long distance runner).

How Civilization Works.
One man was bothered by his belief that preachers prey on the stupidity of their followers, until he met a few and then became of the opinion that they were too dumb themselves to consciously perpetrate such a fraud (in other words):
they believed what they taught and were thus as taken in by it as their congregates. (For a while he had a similar feeling regarding politicians, and after becoming acquainted with some of them, found in their case, his belief justified.)

“Pa pa: why doesn’t mind work in such a way as to save man from
the negative effects of civilization.”
“Draw a diagram showing how an alligator would survive by abandoning its bite.”

What is required to exercise authority in the physical reality compared to same in
man’s intangible, spiritual one is the difference between a blow to the head
and a photograph of a concussion.

Ask yourself: Why are you never kidnapped and held for ransom?

How Civilization Works On Mind Via Words.
The ad promises: “A Noticeably Improved Complexion In Only Fourteen Days
With The Installation Of Our Patented Shield Guard Gutters.”

Some things seen in consciousness’ rear view mirror are not as large
nor important as they may look. (Though maybe stupider.)

Adjectives (in a certain type of investigation) are of little help.
(“I don’t understand that one for sure,” said a highly agitated and annoyed man.)

How Real Court Works.
A King truly in charge has as Official Adviser only one who has no suggestions.
(“At my level: only commands count.”)
The man who does get-to-the-bottom-of-things has tattooed on his consciousness: “Like It Or Lump It – But Don’t Waste My Time Talking About It.”
Real rulers just point – pretenders try to describe where they want you to go.
(“Just imagine where I would be today if I had listened only to me along the way.”
[One man did however recommend his self for a position which he wouldn’t have accepted on a dare.])

Or ask yourself: Why are you not elected by unanimous popular acclaim,
(or at least drafted to run by one of the major factions)?

As he happened to see his self in a mirror one day a man suddenly thought:
“The worst thing about you is that you make me nervous.”

Observes one man: “What goes on in my consciousness when it goes unattended
is as interesting as a group of economists doing water ballet.”

One man will often barge in on his self when he is least expecting it.
“Which is most of the time – and which are the only times that mean anything.”
(“Pa pa: do you think that man might be involved in trying to…..”
“Sure sounds like it, huh?!”)

Okay, then ask yourself: Why hasn’t the Nobel Committee established
a whole new category just to honor your special achievements?

One guy attempted to open a local chapter of an organization that doesn’t exist.
(“They’re the only kind worth being a part of.”)

One man is presently living in a place where he believes alien transmissions are being broadcast throughout the atmosphere and affecting everyone (in some way).

All right, ask yourself this: Why doesn’t everybody abandon religion
and adopt your view of things.
(Guess it’s time to get this over with and return to the first one): just ask yourself:
Why are you never kidnapped and held for ransom?

Just kidding around one day, Life referred to Local Conditions as: G.T.B.W.D.Y.
which it said stood for: Give Me The Blues, Why Don’t You.
(Well, as for the kidding part: after Life said that it put on a half ass smile as though
it was mostly a joke [but as you always note: with Life it’s often hard to tell.])

Back in the clubhouse one man said:
“Playing golf is a lot like achieving enlightenment,”
and then wouldn’t tell the other players how so.
(“On a recent flight I sat next to a man named How So;
do you think there could be a connection?”
In a closed system – what is there to keep people from asking such a question.)
(Standard chickens pretend to be puzzled by the constant clucking they are surrounded by.)

In private one man confides: “I have become The Republic Of Me,
(though I have not advised the rest of the world,
as so doing would defeat the purpose if you know what I mean).”
“Pa pa: did you notice how many parentheses and brackets it took for him
to get all of that said?”
”Yes son: some days it’s sunshine — then other days, rancid citrus juice.”

When you realize the answer to: “Why you’re never kidnapped and held for ransom?” you’ll be closer to enlightenment than prince charming ever was to
putting on Cinderella’s ball gown when he was alone in her bedroom.
(“I not only don’t get that one either – but I don’t want to!”)

Once as a man was thinking of how much his understanding had expanded
as a result of his struggle to wake-up, he was moved to comment to his old,
automatic-consciousness: “Of course I do feel bad about what’s done to you,”

to which it responded: “That’s real funny.”