Jan Cox Talk 2643


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2643 02/12/01 33:57
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Audio tape 2643 of a talk given by Jan Cox on 12th Feb 2001.

suggested title:
Am I in here or out there? Mind or behavior?

Begin: Everything or anything enlightening or informing (in an unusual way) the opposite of it is also enlightening or informing. One of the great ones I use is “its all in the mind. The great mystical brotherhood has it’s temples but it all happens in the mind.

I give all of you credit here that behavior is not your problem. If behavior (For example eating, drinking, or sleeping too much) is your problem then you belong in one of the schools. If behavior (for example usury, slander and backbiting) is your problem you have no idea what this is.

Considering behavior led me to the understanding that you do not know when anyone is awake.

05:00 Writers of the world want the stories they tell to have leaders with charisma. The leaders have qualities such as being charitable and kind. The stories are for beginners who imagine what it would be like to be awake.

Why does everyone involved with this (trying to wake up) believe there has got to be signs that one is awake? Then it hit me that no one knows when you are awake.

10:00 What if someone wanted to prove they were awake? There are people who do charitable work but have black hearts. (For example embezzlers) But beyond that (I know that there is some real thing) to show that you are awake there must be something you could do or prove you are awake. Then it hit me. There is nothing to prove.

Writers can write like they are awake. But what if being awake is the opposite of “it’s all in the mind” and that “it is all a matter of behavior.” The mind will dismiss that it is all a matter of behavior because the mind cannot behave. The mind cannot do anything good or bad, or right or wrong.

What if awakening is all behavior and everything else is imagination? It is a big step saying it is all in the mind but then I then say that it is all imaginary. Look at yourself and ask how awake am I? Well. How much physical damage am I doing to myself?

15:00 You start out after first reading about awakening by asking yourself what can you do? The first stage starts with behavior. (Meditation, Fasting, and Charity, are behaviors) Most people stay in this stage.

The next stage if you are hanging out with me is not behavior. (You should be past the detriments of eating , sleeping, or drinking too much.)

Stage three is finding out it is not in a book or a monastery. It is in the mind. The whole idea of being asleep and wanting to awake is in the mind.

Stage four is it is not in the mind it is all in my behavior. Even if it is in my mind my mind does not exist. So, I move it back to my behavior. But all I do is behave normally. If you do not behave normally you are asleep. One of the signs of being awake is you act normally but it is also a sign that you are asleep.

20:00 Stage five is “What have I got?” And stage five leads to stage six which has no name. So you ask yourself if it is behavior what do I do? Do what you should do. Do what your instincts say to do. Do what you are forced to do like your job and obey the traffic laws when someone is watching.

Don’t you like this idea that you cannot prove awakening? Proving you are awake may not exist out there. What if I am wrong about” it is all in the mind” and it is the opposite.

You should find it interesting that you never consider the reversal is equally enlightening. If you have considered the reversal then you may find it interesting that you only considered it once in ten years.

Interesting is the nature of what this is and that you do not even think about it. You start out with behavior (fasting, meditation, etc.) and then it is not behavior (assuming you are not hurting yourself physically with drinking etc.) and

25:00 then “It is all in your head.” What if I refused to call “it” anything? What if “it” is all a matter of behavior? (When I say this I am still not explaining what I mean.)

What else can you say about it? How can you prove it? You spend your life doing this and you still cannot put your hands on it.

All we are is an animal who thinks. Thinking about the physical world we get technology and culture. Your mind has no muscle and no hands. You say you can think but can you prove it? You can only prove it physically by fixing something or moving something.

Your mind says “what about me?” but don’t let your mind distract you. Just think about it. There is nothing but behavior. Life is behaving and thinking is an adjunct. You will realize that behavior is all that life is. Whether you are a rhino or a human life is behaving. There is nothing else.

30:00 You cannot show anyone thinking because it is something that just goes on. It is something you just say you do that the rhino does not do. What is life besides behavior except for the mind saying “I can think.” You either see it or you don’t.

If life is all behavior then waking up is all behavior. What if it is all a matter of behavior? Ponder it.

Jan’s Posted Daily Fresh Real News

February 12, 2001.

Monday: dateline: Beirut, where at this time,
it is always Tuesday,
thus the news is always ahead of itself
just like it always is to those who can read.


1. You study courses written about:
pursuing the deal.
2. You eventually recognize your error,
and begin to pursue the study of the thing that
wrote all the courses,
and the thing that studies them — the mind.
3. You finally realize your basic misstep;
you forget about the mind, and turn your attention
to the only thing that actually exists — existence.

Few people ponder existence — most just live it,
and most of the few only
ponder their mind & their pondering,
(though never realizing it).
A few-of-the-few finally do get down to the deal:
the direct pondering of existence itself;
they attempt to hold a constant consciousness of the strangeness of both existing, and knowing that you do.

This IS the real deal.


1. Each morning upon awakening, you can lay there,
and ask yourself:
Why do other humans behave as they do?
2. You can lay and ask yourself:
What is it in me asking: What is it in me asking?
3. You can discover an unexplored, unstable edge
where the first two possibilities meet,
and when even momentarily seen —
lights up mere existence in a way that is
blindingly enlightening.

Being a human is living a song:
there is a ceaseless rhythm,
the instincts of the body,
and a melody,
the thoughts of the mind;
the second cannot exist without the first;
they are inseparable, yet the latter can deceive itself,
and conceive otherwise,
for while the melody is limited by the rhythm,
it can sing about being free, and thus believe it is so;
like a caged bird —
carried away by the sound of its own voice —
oblivious to its captivity.

At the rhythmic level,
an ant thinks first of the needs of the colony;
at the melodic, he is allowed to believe that he
reflects on his own individual life and desires;
there is no readily available provision for
the direct mental realization — I exist.

If you think a lot about the second reality,
you become susceptible to unnecessary seriousness;
but if you do not thereabout think sufficiently,
you run the risk of suffering severe consequences in
running afoul of rules established to govern this concurrent world.

Not too much and not too little;
s a really strange cat wastes time on a fiddle.
Hippos happy at water holes;
culture vultures blinded from peeping thru key holes.
A man who knows the real deal
knows where he belongs — which is where? —
— he cant say…which proves he knows.

If it is your desire to do-the-deal
then it is certainly preferable that you
think a lot about the deal, as opposed to
having your thoughts engaged in unrelated matters,
but if you want to get even closer to the deal,
you have got to discover for yourself
the inherent flaw in this otherwise appearing,
proper and necessary approach;
after all, a man must study another language
if he expects to speak another tongue,
but he who would do-the-deal must eventually realize
that there are no instructions regarding it —
— no information, concerning it —
thus anything you do other than simply: doing-the-deal
is a complete waste of effort,
and all involvement therein merely serves to keep you away FROM the deal.

1. You go to school.
2. You begin to study the nature of schooling.
3. You wake up and drop out.

There is no post graduate work in doing-the-deal —
there’s not even a DEAL to begin with —
realizing this is — doing-the-deal.


Postscript From The Droll War Zone:

Any assertion made using yourself as an example
isn’t worth your time.

Two Other Ways to Approach The Deal:
Stop & smell the roses — or:
BE the roses.