Dreams Built on Dreams
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Jan Cox Talk # 2525 May 15, 2000
Notes by DC
Suggested title = Dreams built on Dreams
00:06 A few words about (sort of) what I was talking about last time. I rewrote part of it…to include a similar, related subject.
00:24 [Reads] A man’s mind is like a dramatist that writes a play…
04:07 [Reads] As bad as it is to be in prison with no freedom at all…
04:19 To be enlightened is to face the facts, even the fact that you have but one real self — and it is not the one that talks to you.
04:30 It ill behooves the man who wants to get to the bottom of things to say any more than is plainly called for….
05:25 A story is told of two seekers of the truth who enter a new land…
06:08 Legend also tells of a seeker who at the end of his life said, “Reveal the truth in every word you say and refer to the source in every statement you make.”
06:30 This last of the three pages is what I was getting at tonight, but I did want to tie it in a little to this illusionary self.
07:17 “Reveal the truth..” There is a very specific danger in saying any more than is necessary.
10:00 Bad taste after saying too much.
14:45 Speaking the minimum, speaking what’s called for is ‘speaking the truth in every word’.
When you don’t speak the truth is when you say that which is not called for, that which was not required…
15:35 nugatory effect joke.
16:15 [Saying more] invites the illusionary self.
18:20 Negative speech.
24:10 Sharing a life raft with either a laconic man, or one who continually talks about himself.
24:37 Excessive talk…self promotion…
26:30 Illusionary self is a beard, a front.
26:51 I’ll weave a metaphor: It’s almost as though the instinctive self finds itself born into a world that is no longer of just primary needs.
27:45 A little kid looks around at his parents and everybody playing pretend and he sees that they are always saying things that they do not mean.
28:35 It’s like he gets in his brother-in-law who’s a hairdresser and makes him act as his beard.
29:36 There can’t be a real separation between the two, as even your illusory self is fed by your instinctive self….the secondary self cannot be in conflict, it is a representation.
31:00 If you can see it clearly then you’ve missed it.
31:37 You’d be surprised how efficient that view is, or how efficient things become when you understand that that’s true.
32:45 “Reveal the truth…” …emphasis not on what you say, but how much you say.
35:40 [Including] What you’re saying to yourself, what we normally call thinking.
36:44 If you say only what’s called for, you’ve revealed the truth….not to other people, but to yourself.
37:56 This method more profitable than anything such as selling off everything and going to a monastery.
42:28 If you get a choice between a mystic who says “I make this up myself” and one from a long pedigree….
44:40 Your whole life of trying to awaken from a dream is a dream.
46:02 To realize that is the ‘perfection of enlightenment’.
50:00 There is clearly some validity to the perception of a ‘state of sleep’…can be contrasted to a more awake state…
51:00 And now I say that whole struggle to awaken from that sleep is itself a dream.
51:28 It is an example of what I’m saying cannot be understood.
54:07 Just chew on that, because that’s right near the bottom of things.
57:10 “Your whole life of trying to awaken from a dream is a dream.” You don’t understand that. I strongly recommend you consider it.
58:10 How can this struggle itself be a dream? How can that be?
59:00 Jokes re reading Camus (pronounces Kay-mus) and Goethe (Goeth).
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A MAN’S MIND IS LIKE A DRAMATIST WHO WRITES A PLAY THAT EACH MAN THEN TAKES TO BE REALITY, AND WHICH HE IMMEDIATELY FORGETS THAT HE WROTE,
AFTER THAT, SELDOM DO MEN EVEn DISCRIMINATE BETWEEN THE
DRAMATIST AND HIS WORK.
THE FACT THAT THE ACTUAL DRAMA-OF-LIFE COMMONLY IS AT ODDS WITH THE PLAY COMPOSED BY THE MIND IS NORMALLY OVERLOOKED BY THE ORDINARY,
BUT IT IS THE SOURCE OF WHAT DISTURBS THE FEW, AND DRIVES THEIR HUNGER FOR A “NEW MENTAL BIRTH” OF SOME SORT.
FOR SUCH PEOPLE THE MOST DISTRESSING MANIFESTATION OF THIS DISPARITY CONCERNS THE MATTER OF THE “SELF” TO WHICH MEN LAY CLAIM, BUT WHICH, UPON CLOSE EXAMINATION PROVES TO BE NOTHING MORE THAN AN INVENTED CHARACTER IN THE SCRIPT SO LONG AGO COMPOSED BY THE MIND, A FACT ,NOW SO
LONG AGO FORGOTTEN.
BUT YOU WILL BE FREE FROM THIS DISTRACTING DREAM IF YOU BUT REALIZE AND THEN REMEMBER THAT THIS “SELF” THAT GIVES A RUNNING COMMENTARY ON THE LIFE THAT IT SAYS YOU LEAD
IS NOTHING BUT AN INVENTED CHARACTER IN A PLAY THAT THE MIND WAS WRITTEN, AND IS NOT REAL.
THE LIFE THE MIND BELIEVES IT LIVES IS BUT A “SCRIPT-OF-A-LIFE”;
A FARCE PERHAPS, EVEN A TRAGEDY,
BUT CERTAINLY NOT UNADORNED REALITY.
THE DRAMA THE MIND CONCOCTS
AND THE REALITY OF THE LIFE YOU LEAD
ARE BOTH PLAYED OUT
BUT THEY ARE PERFORMED IN TWO ALTOGETHER DIFFERENT THEATRES.
To BE ENLIGHTENED, IS TO BE SO AWARE.
You MIGHT NOTE THAT MAN’S “ILLUSIONARY SELF” DOES PERFORM A MAJOR ROLE IN HIS LIFe I N THAT IT SERVES AS THE FOCAL POINT AROUND WHICH MEN WEAVE THE DREAM THAT SAYS THEY CONTROL THEIR LIFE.
(SO YOU SEE; IN THE SECONDARY REALITY EVEN THE UN-REAL CAN BE OF IMPORTANCE.)
* * *
FROM ONE VIEW, MEN DO HAVE A “REAL” SELF WHICH IS WHATEVER THEY GENETICALLY ARE;
THEIR “ILLUSIONARY SELF” IS LIKE AN AD HOC FABRICATION OF THEIR MIND,
AND YET ITS PARTICULAR NATURE IS DICTATED BY THE NATURE OF THEIR REAL,
(THUS THERE IS NOTHING UN-NATURAL GOING ON:
JUST A “MORE-SOPHISTICATED SELF”SERVING AS A FRONT FOR A LESS SAVORY ONE.)
As BAD AS IT IS TO BE IN PRISON WITH NO FREEDOM AT ALL
A MAN IS WORSE OFF STILL IF HE BELIEVES THAT HE IS IN FACT, FREE.
To “BE ENLIGHTENED” IS TO FACE THE FACTS,
EVEN THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE BUT ONE REAL SELF — AND IT IS NOT THE ONE THAT — TALKS TO YOU.
* * *
IT ILL BEHOOVES A MAN WHO WANTS TO”GET-TO-THE-BOTTOM-OF-THINGS” TO SAY ANY MORE THAN IS PLAINLY CALLED FOR, BOTH TO OTHERS AND TO HIMSELF.
SPEAKING IN EXCESS OF WHAT IS NECESSARY SIMPLY INVITES YOUR
‘!ILLUSIONARY SELF” ‘ COME IN AND TAKE OVER,
WHICH WILL RESULT IN YOU OFFERING EXPLANATIONS FOR WHAT’VE YOU’VE DONE
WHEN IN FACT, YOU HAVE NONE,
AND WILL CAUSE YOU TO ASCRIBE SPECIFIC MOTIVES FOR YOUR ACTIONS
WHEREAS YOU KNOW NOT WHAT THEY ACTUALLY ARE.
OVERALL, SAYING ANY MORE THAN IS ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED
NOT ONLY OFFERS SUPPORT TO YOUR ILLUSIONARY SELF’S CLAIM OF LEGITIMACY, BUT ALSO AIDS IN IT’S SELF-DECEPTION, (TO WIT),
THAT IT IS IN CONTROL OF YOUR LIFE.
A STORY IS TOLD OF TWO SEEKERS-OF-THE-TRUTH WHO ENTER A NEW LAND,
AND DECIDE TO INVESTIGATE IT SEPARATELY AND MEET LATER TO COMPARE THEIR FINDINGS,
AND AFTER A CONSIDERABLE TIME APART, •
INVOLVED IN THEIR INDIVIDUAL EXPLORATIONS, THEY ONE DAY UNEXPECTEDLY
COME FACE TO FACE AGAIN — AND AFTER SILENTLY LOOKING INTO) ONE ANOTHER’S EYES
FOR THE BRIEFEST OF MOMENTS, THEY LINKED ARMS AND — OFF-THEY-WENT
IN SEARCH OF MORE NEW LANDS.
WHAT DOES THIS STORY SIGNIFY?…AND WHY THE PRESENCE OF TWO FIGURES?… AND WHAT REALIZATION OCCURRED DURING THEIR SILENT , FACE-TO-FACE CONTACT?
LEGEND ALSO TELLS OF AN ANCIENT SEEKER WHO AT THE END OF HIS LIFE SAID: “REVEAL THE TRUTH IN EVERY WORD YOU SAY —
AND REFER TO THE SOURCE IN EVERY STATEMENT YOU MAKE.”
…WHAT A THOROUGHLY STARTLING NOTION — BUT WHAT DID HE MEAN?!