Jan Cox Talk 0589

Thinking When You Don’t Have To Merges Ends With Means


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#589 Dec 29, 1989 – 1:06
Notes by TK

Kyroot to :06. There is a specific difference between men and the other animals: men will do almost anything not to submit to sickness, maltreatment, even death.  Men are designed so as to not-submit. Each new generation must not submit to the former. Any quest or drive that is known and ‘named’ is too limited to be of value. For the Real Revolutionist this type of rebellion is not enough. To the Real Revolutionist, CTWYDHT continued thinking when you don’t have to is both a producer of New Intelligence and simultaneously, the product of N.I. It is a rebellion within a rebellion. Connection to the merger of ends and means.

Men are bound to the too-small and the too-large in their concerns. This attachment to ill-appropriate size is the cement that bonds them to their position of not-submitting to the inevitable. The Real Revolutionist must abandon this stance, it will not fuel NI.

The “trickle down” theory of economics is more than economic. Consider, in a Real Revolutionist’s nervous system would it be more profitable for the authority to flow from the top (Yellow Circuit, capital-D, divine decree) or from the bottom (Red Circuit, labor, democratic will of the people)?

Heroic myth always includes a “quest”, either to some new depth. height or width (distance). Yet it is always contained within the limits of the three known dimensions, requiring a resorting to some ‘monster’—unbelievable opposition blocking the way. The Real Heroic Quest is for NI, and it requires finding a new dimension beyond the 3-d. The Real Revolutionist cannot submit to a known quest. If the quest has been defined, it has been limited.

The dreams man has of Artificial Intelligence breakthroughs in the computer field, are at base the equivalent of saying the new computers will be able to…follow more complex instructions!!


…and Kyroot said:
The salient feature of a faux revolutionist is his embrace of institutionalized freedom.
…and Kyroot said:
(Here’s a curio for your records): On a sparsely populated planet in the elusive time zone, they
have a widely embraced myth whose message is that a man can be a hero more than once.
…and Kyroot said:
In that the only vitality of history for the Revolutionist is in his evolved, personal reenactment, you do realize that your own Viking, and Columbian adventures are not in physical travels to new worlds, but are in journeys to new ways of thinking.
…and Kyroot said:
During a brief stop over at a place not too far from here, I was idling through a school book I found on a bench, and found the following inscription written on the inside back cover,
“The dimensions of my world
are the forces that shape
and direct all of my
possibilities; if I do
not assist them now, they may never forgive me.”
…and Kyroot said:
The many daughters and sons gathered around the old man’s bed as he obviously approached death, and the eldest asked if he had any final words to leave them, and he said, “Yes…
to be human is to
be molecular.”
…and Kyroot said:
At first, the Real Explorer seeks “THE MAP”, a map that is permanent,
indelible, and inviolate…
later, such notions are
mere grin-fodder..
…and Kyroot said:
Anything that must be explained will never be understood.
…and Kyroot said:
In gravitational, three dimensional worlds, to “think about” something is to measure it, and do note that some use feet, others use meters, some measure height while others take width.
…and Kyroot said:
Just remember this – you can talk about it all you want to.
…and Kyroot said:
In real time there are no time zones.
…and Kyroot said:
A younger lad inquired of the old man, “When you speak of something as being from ‘one view’, and then apparently refer to the same thing as from ‘another view’, is the difference in the two views that one is actually spatial, and the other temporal?”
“I will answer you, but first
another question, by which
view will you receive my
…and Kyroot said:
Just because some hear gunfire is no proof that a battle rages.
…and Kyroot said:
A king overheard one of his grown sons say, “No matter what happens
the gods will keep us warm.”
and corrected him thusly,
“No, no; if you must
speak of such matters
be more precise, say, ‘No matter what happens, our thinking about the gods may keep some of us warm’.”
…and Kyroot said:
You do not change where you live by just moving the furniture around.
…and Kyroot said:
“Look here,” said the first voice, “You like metaphorical snacks, so
chew on this one – priests take
holiday tours of sewers so as to
be better priests,” and the second
voice thought, “0.k., then where
does that leave
sewer workers?”
…and Kyroot said:
From another more expansive physical scrutiny, the problem with apologies is that they are an uncertain attempt to redirect a particular energy flow perceived as incorrect…the key
term being,
“uncertain attempt.”
…and Kyroot said:
“But, ah,” said the knight responding to an attack on his intelligence,
“You do not know of the many books
in my library.”, and the millwright
thought, “And I have a can of
gasoline yet I
do not fart
carbon monoxide.”
…and Kyroot said:
One’s sensation of cohesiveness, (if not downright dull conformity), can be encouraged by simply remembering that if its four o’clock here its also four
o’clock somewhere else.
(P.S.: Those in real excitable positions tend not
to get this.)
…and Kyroot said:
The older writers and thinkers who have forever assured man that there
is no “straight road” to this,
or that desirable location did
so because they did not know
the road.
…and Kyroot said:
No matter how many times you think you hear me say it, or how often you think you realize it, remember this – there is no
such thing
as an